Q & A With Will Goldfarb

Willgoldfarb03_2 Somewhat of a pioneer in the pastry movement, Will Goldfarb launched the radically successful dessert bar Room 4 Dessert.  There he charmed diners with such vanguard creations as litchi sorbet with tea air and choco bubbles.  Though Room 4 Dessert has recently shut its doors (due to creative differences amongst partners), Goldfarb shows no signs of slowing down.  His newest venture, Picnick, will bestow a "green" kiosk on Battery Park, bearing haute sandwiches and pannacotta in paper cups (opens Labor Day weekend).  A student of Le Cordon Bleu and Ferran Adria's at Spain's three-starred El Bulli, Goldfarb has emerged an ingenious "mad scientist," fascinated with chemically altered states of cooking.

Status: Single/Married/Divorced
Happily married.

How did you meet your wife?
She interviewed me to see if I would be a good roommate for a shared apartment on Bleecker Street.  The first time that I saw her, I knew that we would be married shortly.  We were engaged a few weeks later.

Does your wife work in the restaurant industry?
She is starting her own company specializing in residential kitchen design.

What did you want to be when you grew up?
A soccer player.

How do you go from applying for law school to fleeing to France to cook for five years?
Virgin Atlantic.  Even the economy class had excellent bar service and plenty of legroom.

How did you gravitate toward sweet versus savory?
I have always been preparing food.  Most food is sweet and savory.  The trick is to have the correct balance based on the customers perception of what each course "should" taste like.

Do you believe you played a part in the recent dessert bar trend in New York?
I was fortunate to be at the opening of Espai Sucre in Barcelona in 2000.  Chika Tillman definitely should have the credit for opening the first bar in New  York. I think that Room 4 Dessert would definitely be credited with starting the pastry chef trend as crossover/rock star status that it has found in the media in the last 18 months.

Were you ever worried the concept for Room 4 Dessert wouldn’t take off?
[I worried] everyday until I walked away.  But people really loved it.  Whenever the media and your clientele agree with your taste, you are very fortunate.  But, I think that the ability to communicate directly with the customer was the key to our success.

News just broke that Room 4 Dessert has closed.  Was that difficult for you?
It was difficult for me to walk away from 17 Cleveland Place. Room 4 Dessert is alive and well with me. 

What’s next for you? Will you be gifting New Yorkers with another dessert bar in the imminent future?
Imminent is a word I never like to use in terms of a New York opening, but you can be sure that my desserts will be coming soon to a mouth near you.  Fortunately, I have a lot of projects in the pipeline, at different levels of development.  And I will be happy to share them with you when it is appropriate.  Right now I want to focus on Picnick...

There’s a “green” kiosk in Battery Park in the works for a Labor Day opening? What did you build it out of? What’s on the menu?
Actually, Claire Weisz, of Weisz & Yoes, designed the beautiful kiosks in The Battery for The Battery Conservancy.  It is made with love.  The items are really straightforward sandwiches, salads and drinks. This what real people want to eat everyday. 

Rumor has it you’ll also be reopening in a different location with a savory selection in tote come February. What do you envision for your new restaurant?
I love rumors.  They are so much more interesting than facts.  I would like to branch out (since I have been alternating between "real" food and dessert for 10 years) but I think that it is intelligent to focus on dessert, as it is integral to my brand development.  It would be premature to comment on any anticipated openings, but I love the bar structure, and I think that customers do too. I think that a fresh market cooked to order menu with little pretense would be a welcome addition to the Manhattan restaurant scene. And then if I become famous enough, and financially successful enough, I would consider a gastronomic bar...

After living abroad for so many years, would you ever consider opening Room 4 Dessert bars in other countries?
I've more than considered. I am currently reviewing proposals from each continent with the exception of Africa (for now!)  I think that our signature style is in much demand, as evidenced by our massive media following from around the world, and our international clientele. I think that world domination would be a fair analysis of my aims, but I would also be happy selling cigarettes on the beach in Puglia, if it means I get to see more of my wife and daughter.

Your style is anything but run-of-the-mill to say the least, what inspires your atypical style, manifesting in frozen chocolate mousse, caviar mango and apple tartare?
My wife and daughter.

You’ve even created your own line of products that you now sell on your site, Willpowder.  Who are your gastronomically inclined customers?
"All shapes and sizes, Vince. All shapes and sizes."  Many professional chefs are interested in learning more about the ingredients that are a part of my repertoire.  We have tried to structure our offerings to give people the chance to buy a little product and learn from our recipes, and then offer a better price on bulk products, when they become a part of our chef/partners' repertoires.  I think 2008 will see a much greater crossover to the home, and I would like to help enable that.  Basically, I'm doing it for the mortgage.  But as I'm sure you know, there are a lot of faster ways to pay the mortgage.  I am only involved with projects that I am passionate about.

Have you always been interested in chemistry? What inspired your molecular curiosities?
I was a decent chemistry student in high school, and skipped it at Duke [University] because it seemed too boring.  I have learned a lot from Herve This in developing a better understanding, but I am not a scientist, just a cook.

You also constructed a rather serious cocktail menu for Room 4 Dessert.  Do you fancy yourself a mixologist or is this another vehicle to dessert?
I like to drink.  And I like when a restaurant has consistency among its offerings, and this should extend to the wine and spirits program. The luxury about dessert is that all roads lead there.  I am not a mixologist; Jim Meehan, Yvan Lemoine, Dale DeGroff... these are mixologists.

You attracted quite a following at Room 4 Dessert.  Where do you suggest loyalists indulge their sweet tooth until you reopen?
I was very lucky to have so much support.  Room 4 Dessert customers are the best in the world.  In the meantime, I would suggest that they go to WD-50 to try Alex Stupak's desserts, P*ONG, and of course Tailor by Sam Mason, which I am hoping will open very soon.  There are several pastry chefs like Johnny Iuzzini, Sebastien Rouxel, Michael Laiskonis, and Alex Grunert, who are all excellent.  The only challenge in regularly tasting their desserts is that they would include a fine dining tasting menu, which can be somewhat expensive.  Although the bar at Bouchon Bakery in the Time Warner Center is pretty solid as well.  I would recommend the Maison du Chocolat and Pierre Marcolini on the chocolate side, and then you can just email me and I'll bring something special to your home. I've got free time.

Many new restaurants have opted to outsource their pastries. What are your thoughts? Do you ever worry that pastries will become a thing of the past?
I am actually in favor of this trend because it has the ability to reward me financially, as well as offering an interesting opportunity for brand extension.  Pastries will always be in high demand because people love them.  The fact that small to medium restaurants simply cannot afford a high ticket pastry chef, along with a limited labor pool, and new opportunities for entrepreneurial pastry chefs, means that outsourcing as a trend is likely to continue. Thank heavens.

I read somewhere that you don’t eat dessert, is that really the case?
I don't believe anything I read, especially if it is about me.

What is your junk food of choice?
A McDonald's double cheeseburger from the dollar menu - no contest.

What are your favorite restaurants in NYC?
Tia Pol, Momofuku and Momofuku, Ssam, Degustation, and WD-50.  I am also very fond of these restaurants lately: The Tavern at Gramercy, Eleven Madison, Parigot, Quartino, and of course, Zabb Thai in Queens. I like a lot of restaurants in New York, and now I have the chance to eat at some of them.

What culinary trend do you most embrace?
The rise of the pastry chef as a rock star.

What trend do you wish would die already?
The rise of the pastry chef as a rock star.

Any other projects on the horizon for you? Any new ventures or restaurants in the works? Spill the beans...
Stay tuned...


Until we eat again,
Restaurant Girl
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